In another deeply moving and insightful episode of Konversations with Kim & Kwaledi, the hosts sit down with Lesley Ditebogo “Bra Face” Ketsi, a former South African National Defence Force (SANDF) Sergeant whose life story bridges national service, historic moments, and resilient entrepreneurship.
Bra Face’s career in the SANDF spans years of disciplined service, leadership, and responsibility — culminating in one of the most solemn and significant moments in South Africa’s democratic history. As a cabin controller, he was part of the team entrusted with transporting the late former President Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela to his final resting place in Qunu, Eastern Cape, following his passing.
Reflecting on that moment, Bra Face speaks with humility and pride about serving not only the SANDF, but the nation itself. He describes the responsibility, emotional weight, and honour of being involved in the farewell of a global icon whose legacy continues to shape South Africa and the world.
From Uniform to Entrepreneurship
After leaving the SANDF, Bra Face faced a reality many veterans encounter — transitioning from structured service into the unpredictable world of business. Instead of being deterred, he applied the same principles that defined his military career: discipline, leadership, adaptability, and perseverance.
Today, he is a businessman who understands that success is not built overnight. During the conversation, he shares candid lessons about business failures, financial pressures, and the mental resilience required to keep going when things don’t work out as planned.
One of his most powerful insights resonates strongly with aspiring entrepreneurs:
“If you chase money first, the business will fail. But if you follow passion, serve people well, and stay consistent — money will follow.”
Leadership Beyond the Battlefield
Bra Face emphasises that leadership is not about rank or titles, but about integrity, accountability, and service to others. Whether leading soldiers or managing a business, he believes the same core values apply — show up, do the work, respect people, and remain teachable.
He also highlights the importance of mentorship, emotional intelligence, and learning from mistakes, especially for young entrepreneurs navigating South Africa’s challenging economic landscape.
A Conversation That Inspires
This episode of Konversations with Kim & Kwaledi goes beyond storytelling — it offers real-life lessons on resilience, nation-building, and purpose-driven success. Bra Face’s journey is a reminder that life after uniform does not mean the end of service; for some, it simply changes form.
Whether you’re a veteran transitioning into civilian life, an entrepreneur finding your footing, or a listener seeking motivation rooted in authenticity, this conversation delivers inspiration with depth and honesty.
